Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Carnet (10-ticket) questions

I just had a quick question about getting carnets...doing my research it seems that going the carnet route would be most economical for us. we will be 4 adults with one child under 2 travelling and will be in paris for 6 days 5 nights. I didnt want to buy a weekly pass since we wont be there for a whole week and we will also be arriving on a saturday.



In terms of the carnets, i read on some website (i forget which one at the moment) that they are only valid between 2 specific stations.. and for some reason i feel that that is misinformation.. and that it is indeed valid between any 2 stations within 2 zones? (is that correct or would they have to be bought for travel within 2 specific stations?) Thanks so much =D




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You can use your metro tickets (10 of which makeup a carnet) to travel anywhere within the zone that you have purchased. For most tourists a Zone 1 %26amp; 2 is all you need. You can use the ticket to enter the station and then ride anywhere the line goes, and even make transfers if you need to.




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you get a stack of 10 from a machine and can use them to go anywhere in Paris -- they are not specific -- and the zones covered include all 20 arrondisement





once into the system you can connect with other trains to get literally anywhere within the zones 1 and 2 (i.e. all of Paris)





Be sure to hang onto your ticket until you are out the exit -- as occasionally you have to produce it (We have average one such request in about 50 rides -- but the consequences if you dn%26#39;t have the ticket are expensive)




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.... but if you go through any exits out of the subway or RER system, that ticket is %26#39;complet%26#39; (done).



If you find you are riding 5 times/day, you can buy the Mobilis %26#39;day%26#39; ticket for 5.80€ (unlimited rides within zones 1-2).




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Also keep in mind that when you happen enter the metro system (which can be at any station in zones 1%26amp;2) and you happen to hop onto an RER train for a part of the leg, keep the ticket you used initially since it will be required to exist the RER section of the transit. If you don%26#39;t keep that ticket and re-use it to get out of the RER section you will have to use a new ticket. This can get expensive.




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thanks for the tips.. sounds somewhat reminiscent of the tokyo subway/metro system :p however, how do transfers onto, lets say a bus, from the metro or RER work? do u have to go to some machine or a teller to get a special transfer ticket? because i imagine you would have to exit the station to transfer onto a bus thanks again =D




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Need to use a new ticket for the bus :( No way to obtain a transfer from metro/RER to bus system.




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bummer :\ but thanks!




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Be sure to keep the carnet tickets away from anything magnetic, such as key cards: they can be de-magnetized and made useless. I found out the hard way, but the lady at the metro booth kindly gave me new tickets for the ones I had de-magnetized.




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Some of the information above is incorrect. The reason for this is that the zones and the tickets have changed (since July 1st, 2007!).





Firstly: the normal %26quot;ticket t+%26quot; carnet tickets are ONLY FOR ZONE 1 (they used to be for zones 1-2, but not any more). This is only relevant on the RER - the tickets still are valid on the entire metro network, as before (even where the metro network stretches into zone 2 or even 3).





Secondly: There are no longer any tickets for, for example, zone 1-3 or 1-4. You buy either a ticket t+ if you want to travel in zone 1, or a %26quot;Billet Île-de-France%26quot; if you need to travel outside of Paris (it is sometimes also called a %26quot;Billet origine-destination%26quot;). This is a ticket to a specific destination, NOT a zone or zones.





Thirdly: You can buy %26quot;a carnet%26quot; of either %26quot;tickets t+%26quot;, or %26quot;billets Île-de-France%26quot; - it simply means ten tickets at a reduced price.



If you just ask for %26quot;un carnet%26quot; at the counter, you will get ten %26quot;tickets t+%26quot; (€11.40). But you can also buy %26quot;un carnet Paris-Versailles rive gauche%26quot;, for example; ten tickets to/from station Versailles rive gauche (one ticket would cost €2.90, a carnet is €23.20). You cannot use these tickets to go to destinations on other lines in zone 2, 3 or 4.





Of course you can still buy day/week/month passes for travel in a specified number of zones.





www.ratp.fr



www.transport-idf.fr




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We just stayed in Paris a month. We bought carnets for 11.40 Euros. We sometimes used the tickets to go just on the metro and sometimes started on the metro and switched to RER without exiting the system (i.e., on the same ticket). Sometimes we took the metro to several stops outside Paris. Sometimes we took the RER (after switching from the metro on the same ticket) to several stops outside Paris. Did we do something %26quot;wrong%26quot;? Once you%26#39;re in the system having used a ticket, I don%26#39;t see how you are supposed to know you are only supposed to go a certain distance.

Dijon in Christams

Planning a trip to Dijon and Paris during Christmas and new year%26#39;s. I%26#39;m curious about the weather in Dijon at that time..



Plan is to stay for 3 nights in Dijon including Christmas eve. Any sugestions on what can be done during our stay?

Gare du Nord - tourist information

Is there somewhere at the stattion we can buy Paris Visite tickets or obtain tourist information?





Also is it true you can buy Paris Visite and carnet tickets at St Pancras before you get on the Eurostar?




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There is a Tourist Information Desk on the main concourse at Gare du Nord (turn left when you come off the Eurostar platform. I believe that the enquiry dest in the Departure area at St Pancras sells passes, though I don%26#39;t think carnets of metro tickets. Certainly they have free maps of Paris. There is rarely a major queue there, and it will be something to do during the half hour after you have checked in.




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Oh, Oh!!!





The Visitor Information Booth at Gare du Nord was my best friend in Paris!!!!





They helped me with SO MUCH!!! (Along with everyone here on the TA Board, of course) And as the previous poster mentioned, No Lines!!!

Arc de triomphe and strollers

Anybody have any idea whether or not we%26#39;ll be able to go up the elevator with 2 toddlers and our 2 small umbrella strollers? I doubt the walk up the spiral staircase will go well. ;-)




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Greetings,





We were just there this afternoon, and they were letting anyone go up the elevator. I%26#39;m certain that, at least this afternoon, they would have let you up with the strollers. We were there at about 3:00, and it was not crowded at all.





Note that even with the elevator, there are about forty stairs to get to the top.





We saw lots of folks with children and strollers negotiating this, as we did nine years ago when our daughter was an infant. I don%26#39;t know about two of them, though.





I%26#39;d say, give it a try. The staff seemed very friendly and helpful.





Enjoy!

Thank you experts and all..

.. your information helped to make a fantastic visit in Nice. We went for ten days and would not mind going for a month next time. We really enjoyed being in Nice and getting to know the city. Our apartment was on Meyerbeer a half block from the Promenade. We could see the ocean from our balcony. We would walk to the Cours Sayala in the morning and get fruit and flowers, went to both the public beach and also rented lounges on the water. There was a music festival while we were there last Sunday night which was fun to be part of. Such a vibrant city. I found shopping great. We loved our one bedroom apartment with a large balcony and a full modern kitchen. Because it was so central and air conditioned we could stop back for a cool down and rest before heading out again. We had very hot weather which was nice for the beach but not great for day trips. But because of your information we did not make mistakes and waste time getting lost (once we figured out where the buses ran). I have to recommend Go-Nice for accommodation. The apartment was very well equipped and larger than it had showed on the website. Thanks again for all that contribute information to help make things easier for first-timers.




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I second this post. I visited Nice last month armed with only guides (copy, paste %26amp; printed) from this forum (I didn%26#39;t even have a guide book, even the Nice map I took from my hotel upon arrival) and find that they were straight-to-point information. My holiday in Nice was stress-free and simply relaxing! Thanks to yymca6, LondonBob, NiceLife, selkieNice, Nice_French_Riviera, allaboutNice (who else did I miss?) and the rest who have helped us in this forum. You rock!

Markets

A few questions...





Two days in Villefranche. Love markets. Options:





1. We%26#39;ll def do Cours Saleya in Nice. Is Pain Quotidien still there for breakfast?





2. Debating between Ventimiglia and Sanremo markets. Pros and cons of each, please!





3. Any other GREAT markets?




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We were in Villefrance last Sunday. There were two antique markets that were kind of fun.




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The days on which each market is held might make a difference :





The market in Ventimiglia is held on Fridays (early morning until 4.00 pm) while the one in San Remo is held on Tuesdays and Saturdays (early morning until 1.00-2.00pm).





Ventimiglia can be reached more easily as there are direct trains from Villefranche that terminate there.




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Pain Quotidien was still there the last time I went, which was early June.




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what would make a market a great one for you?

Trip report - what I learned

We came to paris after almost 15 years away. Our trip was short and we were looking to get both a great experience have some great values.





Upon arriving - our flight came in at 6:30 am - but by the time we left the airport it was full rush hour. Took 40 min to get into paris. So here is the interesting thing. By meter into the Marais - the cost was 47 E - cheaper than a shuttle pickup at that hour for a family of 3. I would advise those thinking about the shuttle to do their homework.





we stayed in the Republic just 2 min north of the Marais on 3 subway lines in a wonderful hotel apartment call Citadine...%26lt; $150 US for a 1 bedroom, (double bed and 2 twin day beds). 2 full rooms, kitchen, separate bathroom toliet and tub....I would highly recommend this hotel and this area...it is the 11th district but super easy to navigate...great restaurants, food shops and an amazing morning market. Clean, modern and very nice...





We spent our days in different areas...went on the bauteaux mouches...it was a lovely start. Eiffel tower, louve, notre dame, 2-3 major areas...no art museums this time...we wanted to soak up the city saw a few markets which were lovely....shopped a bit. The markets are a great experience. The marais, place des voges is also wonderful...





took subway everywhere...





Dinners were mostly in the Republic or Bastille area...chez Justine is very cool, inexpensive, but great...food shops were amazing and it is so convenient having a kitchen for pate and wine. Did not obsess about where to eat..there were 3-4 great bistros reccommended to us in almost every area.





tourist watch out. if you are eating or drinking near any main attration learn how to say carafe d%26#39;leau (pitcher of water) one bottled water cost 7 E. We also asked for house wine and they gave us a white chardonnay (not house) for 8 E...the menu had a glass for 3 E . This was only one time...and we did not complain. We just drank our expensive 3 drinks (cost us as much as lunch) and left with no tip.





food experience...the macaroons and lemon tarts....and the yogurt. french make it best





Longchamp...cheaper at the airport. Get it on the way back home in duty free. many experts responded to this saying to go to gallerie lafayette...that was the most expensive for the same bag.





Soaps and lavender. Buy at the street market. they will package it up for you. One market even had brand name italian shoes...well heeled french women were buying 3-4 at a time...30-50 E retailing over 100E





Wine....try the rose it is so french and lovely this time of year.





We tried to %26quot;get lost in paris%26quot; vs do a lot of touristy things....and loved it





Bon Voyage!




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sounds like you had a great time,, thanks for reporting back. . I will add, that leaving no tip was no big deal,, the most you tip is to round up unless service is excellant and you are somehwere fancy.. a euro or two max is normal in most cases,, ( although for fancy smancy places I would leave 5 or 10 )





You did enjoy one art museum it seems,, the Louvre!